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Old 07-27-2014, 06:25 PM

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Hey there, like many of you, I am trying to solve the prevalent mystery of my family unit. . . except, I don't know if information technology's ever going to exist possible.

My grandfather who is in his eighties was adopted in Colorado in the 1930s. He was built-in to an unwed teenage girl who was sent to the Catholic church (presumably similar the infamous story of Philomena Lee, except an American version) to finish her pregnancy in secret and shame. I presume she was made to give up her child. We know nothing nigh her or the birth father. And like a bad cliche, all the church records were burned in a "fire." Which means he has no birth certificate, or whatsoever paper work regarding the adoption. The just thing the Cosmic church told him (when he was sixteen and went to collect his nonexistent records) was that his mother didn't want him. He never looked for her because he figured, being sent to a Catholic church to give birth as an unwed significant teenager, he was probably a cloak-and-dagger and she was probably embarrassed and aback.

It is only now that the danger of her even so being alive has passed and my growing interest in the truth, that he has agreed to let me search for his existent parents, well, their names anyway, as they are almost certainly expressionless---or 100 years old!

Is this fifty-fifty possible? And if so, where should I start? I am new to all of this. I just desire to know, and I want to discover out for him. I know adoptions are catchy to runway, especially ones done through a Catholic church whose records have burned.

What should I practice? Our family doesn't alive in Colorado, as he moved when he was still immature, and so I uncertainty I could mosey on over to the church building and enquire. The only thing we have going for us is we know his original nativity name, and nosotros know that his nascency begetter had red hair, and nosotros know that the mother or mothers family was presumably heavy Catholic, and maybe Irish considering of that? He was also baptized as a baby, but the tape is either burned or with his adoptive mother, who died a long time ago.

Any tips of where I tin can start would exist neat. He has also agreed to do a DNA test. I am wondering if it could match him to relatives. What kind of DNA test should he take? The i on Beginnings, or is there a ameliorate i? Please walk me through this, as I don't know the differences betwixt DNA tests or which one is better.

Cheers


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Old 07-27-2014, 08:31 PM

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Hi writerbear and welcome to City Data!

Definitely practice the Dna, equally before long equally possible. He should do both Y Deoxyribonucleic acid and autosomal DNA. I would propose using Family Tree DNA:

https://www.familytreedna.com/

The Y Deoxyribonucleic acid may match him with men with the same surname as his nascency father. The autosomal Deoxyribonucleic acid can friction match relatives on both the maternal and paternal sides of the family. Correct at present the Y Deoxyribonucleic acid is a bit expensive; there may exist a auction at Christmas if you are willing to wait that long.

I would contact the Church again. Unfortunately, many genealogy records have been truly lost in fires, but if he was only 16 when he asked for his records, he may not have been given the whole story. You have his nativity proper name and, I presume, his truthful birth engagement. That should be helpful. Information technology would besides be worthwhile to see if a civil birth document was recorded under that name in the canton in which he was built-in. If he has a birth document under his adoptive proper noun, you could contact the county that issued it and run across if they have an adoption file on him.

I have an Ancestry.com subscription. If you would similar to DM me his birth proper noun, birth date, adoptive proper noun, and place of birth, I'll see what I tin can detect out for y'all.

I take not had to research whatever adoptions in my family, and so I am flying by the seat of my pants here. I suspect others will be along with more than helpful hints.

Old 07-27-2014, 11:25 PM

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Definitely do DNA tests. Do more than ane. A friend of mine (who was adopted) recentlly found her birth family through DNA. Getting a match will depend on whether anyone from the nascency family too used that particular Dna visitor.

The match could be cousin, half-sibling, etc.

Also, I agree that you should contact the church (or diocese) about any extant records. Was this a home for unwed mothers?

Adept luck.

Old 07-28-2014, 06:11 PM

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Hi writerbear and welcome to City Data!

Definitely do the Deoxyribonucleic acid, as presently every bit possible. He should do both Y DNA and autosomal DNA. I would advise using Family Tree DNA:

https://www.familytreedna.com/

The Y Dna may match him with men with the same surname equally his birth father. The autosomal DNA can match relatives on both the maternal and paternal sides of the family. Correct now the Y Dna is a flake expensive; there may exist a sale at Christmas if yous are willing to await that long.

I would contact the Church again. Unfortunately, many genealogy records accept been truly lost in fires, merely if he was only 16 when he asked for his records, he may non have been given the whole story. Y'all have his birth name and, I presume, his true birth engagement. That should be helpful. Information technology would also be worthwhile to run across if a civil birth certificate was recorded under that name in the canton in which he was born. If he has a birth certificate under his adoptive name, y'all could contact the county that issued it and meet if they take an adoption file on him.

I accept an Beginnings.com subscription. If you would similar to DM me his birth name, birth date, adoptive name, and place of birth, I'll run across what I can find out for you.

I have not had to research whatsoever adoptions in my family, and so I am flight by the seat of my pants hither. I suspect others volition exist forth with more helpful hints.

Thanks! Yous are so kind to offer help with Ancestry. I'll DM you!

Q's on the DNA - You recommend Familytree, is this improve than Ancestry, 23andme, and the National Geographic one? Does each one only connect with relatives on that site, say, if for example I practice the Dna with Familytree, will they also match me with relatives on 23andme? Or, for the best and most extensive results, do I exercise a DNA with all of them? Or, is there a place to upload those results and find relatives on all the sites?

I'll run into what I tin can practice to discover a ceremonious nascence certificate. Equally far every bit we know though, his original birth certificate was burned and so, at xvi when he set up out to piece of work, he had nothing, so he had to request a new birth certificate and his adoptive aunt had to clothing that he is indeed who he is.

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Definitely do DNA tests. Exercise more than one. A friend of mine (who was adopted) recentlly plant her nascence family through Deoxyribonucleic acid. Getting a lucifer will depend on whether anyone from the birth family also used that particular DNA company.

The friction match could be cousin, one-half-sibling, etc.

Also, I agree that you should contact the church building (or diocese) about any extant records. Was this a home for unwed mothers?

Good luck.

How-do-you-do there! Inspiring story, I promise it'southward the case with u.s. as well.

As far as I know, aye this was a abode for unwed mothers, and possibly other orphaned children. I am hoping information technology wasn't like the Magdalene Laundries that spread across Europe and the United states of america during this time period. If so, it would've meant that she was horribly mistreated and abandoned past her family, which I suspect to be the case because I believe it was the birth father who dropped her off at the church building (probably after her family unit disowned her for getting pregnant) because (every bit was unusual at the fourth dimension) there was a clarification of him included----normally the girl was dropped off lonely (by family), just for some reason, the birth male parent made an appearance. Perhaps later on she was kicked out of her parents, they had no money, and so he did the all-time matter he could do (which was to drop her off at the church for unwed mothers?).

Unfortunately, my gramps doesn't remember the verbal church building, simply the area in which it was in. I'll have to attempt to detect it myself. But I doubt I'll get any data from them.

Thanks for the links!

Unfortunately though, many of them don't have public records for the appointment I need. And that law is some other road crash-land, obviously.

Old 07-28-2014, 09:05 PM

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Cheers! Yous are so kind to offer help with Ancestry. I'll DM you!

I have sent you a reply.

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Q's on the DNA - Y'all recommend Familytree, is this better than Ancestry, 23andme, and the National Geographic i? Does each i but connect with relatives on that site, say, if for example I do the DNA with Familytree, will they as well lucifer me with relatives on 23andme? Or, for the all-time and most all-encompassing results, practice I do a Deoxyribonucleic acid with all of them? Or, is in that location a place to upload those results and find relatives on all the sites?

I do not know that any of them are ameliorate every bit far equally the Dna is concerned. The problem with 23AndMe is a lot of matches just practise non desire to communicate. Information technology is frustrating even for those of united states of america who practice not have the adoption barrier to get by. Some folks do them all. You can do either 23Andme or Ancestry.com or both for autosomal tests and transfer the results to FamilyTreeDna for a smaller fee than doing their test. I remember folks who do the NatGeo test are mainly looking for deep bequeathed origins. I do not know whether they even do matching. I suspect it's going to come downwardly to how much money you are willing to spend. I think FamilyTreeDNA is best for Y Deoxyribonucleic acid, but that is my personal opinion. The more tests y'all do, the greater the chance you will find a match who is close enough generationally to be useful.

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I'll come across what I can do to detect a ceremonious nascency certificate. Equally far as nosotros know though, his original birth certificate was burned and then, at 16 when he set out to piece of work, he had zip, so he had to request a new nascence certificate and his adoptive aunt had to vesture that he is indeed who he is.

I still wonder about the fire story. I cannot find annihilation about lost records in the county you mentioned in your DM.

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As far as I know, yes this was a dwelling for unwed mothers, and perchance other orphaned children. I am hoping it wasn't like the Magdalene Laundries that spread beyond Europe and the US during this time menstruum. If and then, it would've meant that she was horribly mistreated and abandoned by her family, which I doubtable to be the example because I believe it was the nascence father who dropped her off at the church (probably after her family disowned her for getting pregnant) because (as was unusual at the time) there was a description of him included----usually the girl was dropped off solitary (by family unit), but for some reason, the nascency father made an advent. Peradventure after she was kicked out of her parents, they had no money, and so he did the best matter he could do (which was to driblet her off at the church building for unwed mothers?).

Unfortunately, my grandpa doesn't remember the exact church, just the area in which it was in. I'll have to endeavour to notice information technology myself. But I doubtfulness I'll get any data from them.

The Church probably is immaterial. The question is who did they refer her to for pregnancy care and commitment. Since y'all are pretty certain it was a Catholic Church, try Cosmic Charities first.

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And that law is another route bump, apparently.

It seems that for adoptions before 1951 either both the mom and the child must agree to beingness reunited or a court society is needed to go admission to the adoption records. I would call back that considering an adoptee in his 80s whose female parent has probably died that perchance a estimate would probable look favorably on granting the order.

Old 08-02-2014, 08:08 AM

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I do not know that any of them are ameliorate equally far equally the Deoxyribonucleic acid is concerned. The trouble with 23AndMe is a lot of matches just exercise not want to communicate. It is frustrating even for those of us who practise not have the adoption barrier to get past. Some folks do them all. You can do either 23Andme or Ancestry.com or both for autosomal tests and transfer the results to FamilyTreeDna for a smaller fee than doing their test. I think folks who do the NatGeo test are mainly looking for deep bequeathed origins. I practice not know whether they even do matching. I suspect information technology's going to come downwardly to how much money you are willing to spend. I call back FamilyTreeDNA is all-time for Y DNA, merely that is my personal opinion. The more tests you practise, the greater the take a chance y'all will notice a lucifer who is shut enough generationally to exist useful.

I guess I will order the autosomal Ancestry exam, and also transfer information technology to FamilyTreeDna. If both of those come up with zero, then we'll effort the 23Andme test. And if those don't work, I'll get to FamilyTreeDNA and do a Y Deoxyribonucleic acid exam.

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I nevertheless wonder almost the fire story. I cannot detect anything about lost records in the county you mentioned in your DM.

Me too, simply this is what he was told then that's all I've got to go along. Someone may have been lying to him at the time. It'due south a total mystery.

I'll allow y'all know if I observe anything!

Old 08-02-2014, 09:03 AM

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Good luck, OP. I went through something similar a few years ago trying to find out more about my grandmother's biological parents. However, I did have their names at to the lowest degree to become started with. Wish I had some tips for yous, but I really don't. Hope you lot're able to find something, though.

Old 08-02-2014, 09:07 AM

Location: Georgia, U.s.

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I judge I will order the autosomal Ancestry test, and also transfer it to FamilyTreeDna. If both of those come up up with nothing, then we'll try the 23Andme test. And if those don't work, I'll go to FamilyTreeDNA and do a Y Deoxyribonucleic acid test.

Me too, but this is what he was told and then that's all I've got to become on. Someone may have been lying to him at the time. It's a full mystery.

I'll let you know if I find anything!

I would do the Y Dna first, because it may reveal his father'south likely surname.

Old 08-02-2014, 02:22 PM

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A couple of questions -
Did he keep his birth name? if not, how does he know it? was it family info passed on?
Have you asked any other family unit members their memories?
At the time, at that place were many many privately bundled adoptions, where friends, acquaintances etc were the adopting family. Family unit Dr's & local lawyers were often involved. [of course there were totally impersonal ones too - some notorious]. But sometimes in these earlier adoptions the answers are much closer than one would think.

Yeah there were 'homes' etc. But as opposed to more than recent adoptions, secrecy was not every bit regulated and older family members might know more than they think.

Does you grandfather know if he was adopted at birth? Was he somewhere else B4 being adopted? a domicile or institution?

What did his parents tell him about his origins?
How does he know his father had red hair?
B4 they moved away, did neighbor kids know he was adopted?
Since he is cooperative with this, try to prick his memory of where these details come from.

Information technology sounds to me that someone in the families knew some personal details about his parents, the kind of stuff that was passed on by someone who was not an "institutional" go-between. A made-up scenario but something like "local boy got the 'assist' meaning and she had to requite the child upward, so the town Dr or lawyer reached out and found someone to adopt the kid. " If you inquire questions from that perspective, you might get some helpful memories.

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